Episode #144 - Learning Over Threshold?

Live...laugh...lick mat

December 8, 2025

TLDL (Too Long, Didn’t Listen):

1️⃣ Just because you can, doesn’t mean you should – Learning during high levels of stress can happen, but it’s usually not the learning we want. If your dog (or you) is already over threshold, the goal shifts from “teach the thing” to “get everyone back to thinking/learning.”
 
2️⃣ Body language beats guessing every time – Understanding what you observe in your pet, their ears, eyes, tail, muscle tension, matters way more than the story in your head. When you know your dog’s actual ladder of escalation, you can step in early instead of trying to clean up a full-blown meltdown.
 
3️⃣ Support the human to support the pet – Clients (and pet parents in general) learn best when they are in the thinking and learning zone, too. If you’re a professional, things like open-ended questions, mirroring, and normalizing “life got lifey” helps people feel safe, supported, and actually able to do the work.

Episode Overview:

Ever try to teach your dog something new only to realize both of you are way too stressed to even remember your own names? Same. In this episode, Emily and our newest Pet Harmony team member, Veronica Garcia, dive into the “thinking and learning zone”. Learn what it looks like, why it matters, and why your dog suddenly forgets literally everything the minute stress walks into the room.
 
We talk about how bodies (yours and your pet’s) do weird things under stress, how foundational skills matter way more than they get credit for, and why sometimes the best thing you can do is skip the walk and grab a frozen lick mat. Veronica brings her vet-med and behavior background to the table with real-life examples, plus some “yep, been there” moments from her own pups.
 
If you’ve ever wondered why training feels so hard on “one of those days,” this episode will help you breathe, regroup, and get everyone back into the zone where learning actually sticks.

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Meet the Hosts

Allie Bender, CDBC, CPDT-KA, SBA

Allie Bender is a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant, Certified Professional Dog Trainer- Knowledge Assessed, and a Shelter Behavior Affiliate. She has been in the animal welfare industry since 2006 and professionally training since 2012. She is the founder and co-owner of Pet Harmony, co-author of Canine Enrichment for the Real World, and a national speaker.

While in the animal sheltering industry, Allie realized that her passion lied in helping pets with maladaptive behaviors. Specifically, she wanted to help prevent animals with rehabilitatable problems from being euthanized. She loves working with dogs and cats displaying stranger danger, resource guarding, and leash reactivity. Her favorite thing about working with pets and their people is seeing relationships grow and seeing harmonious households develop.

EMIly strong

Emily Strong is a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant and Shelter Behavior Affiliate. She has been in the animal welfare industry since 1990 and has been a behavior consultant since 2008. She is the co-owner of Pet Harmony, co-author of Canine Enrichment for the Real World, and a national speaker. 

Emily started working with animals at a young age and struggled with the notion that you have to hurt, scare, or intimidate animals to help them. When she discovered the behavior sciences and learned that it wasn’t necessary to do so– that we can care for emotional, mental, and physical health simultaneously– she plunged headfirst into animal behavior. Emily loves helping current and prospective behavior professionals and working with pet parents through our in-depth services. She enjoys working with all species.

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