April 18, 2022

#8 - Helen Dishaw: What We Can Learn From Birds

In this week’s interview episode, we are joined by Helen Dishaw, Curator of Bird Programs at Tracy Aviary and Vice President of The International Association of Avian Trainers and Educators. 

In this episode, you’re going to hear Emily and Helen talk about:

  • Why birds make great teachers
  • Who’s training who?
  • Owl socialization
  • How budgies stumped Emily

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Meet the Guest

Helen Dishaw

Helen Dishaw currently holds the position of Curator of Bird Programs at Tracy Aviary. A lifelong animal person, she has worked with a variety of exotic animals in AZA facilities for more than two decades, committed to the excellent care and welfare of animals in human care. She became involved in work directly and primarily with avian species approximately 10 years ago and since that time has been involved in managing free-flight bird programs. Helen has been a member of IAATE since 2004 and during that time has chaired several committees as well as participated in the creation of IAATE’s Position Statements on best practices of avian management for educational and free-flight programs. For more than a decade, she has served as Vice President of IAATE. Helen is the Ambassador Animal Advisor for the AZA Raptor Taxon Advisory Group; she also serves on the steering committees for the Raptor TAG and the Ambassador Animal Scientific Advisory Group.

Meet the Hosts

Allie pic with Oso

Allie Bender, CDBC, CPDT-KA, SBA

Allie Bender is a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant, Certified Professional Dog Trainer- Knowledge Assessed, and a Shelter Behavior Affiliate. She has been in the animal welfare industry since 2006 and professionally training since 2012. She is the founder and co-owner of Pet Harmony, co-author of Canine Enrichment for the Real World, and a national speaker.

While in the animal sheltering industry, Allie realized that her passion lied in helping pets with maladaptive behaviors. Specifically, she wanted to help prevent animals with rehabilitatable problems from being euthanized. She loves working with dogs and cats displaying stranger danger, resource guarding, and leash reactivity. Her favorite thing about working with pets and their people is seeing relationships grow and seeing harmonious households develop.


Emily Strong, CDBC, SBA

Emily Strong is a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant and Shelter Behavior Affiliate. She has been in the animal welfare industry since 1990 and has been a behavior consultant since 2008. She is the co-owner of Pet Harmony, co-author of Canine Enrichment for the Real World, and a national speaker. 

Emily started working with animals at a young age and struggled with the notion that you have to hurt, scare, or intimidate animals to help them. When she discovered the behavior sciences and learned that it wasn’t necessary to do so– that we can care for emotional, mental, and physical health simultaneously– she plunged headfirst into animal behavior. Emily loves helping current and prospective behavior professionals and working with pet parents through our in-depth services. She enjoys working with all species.

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