August 28, 2023

#52 - Kyle Hetzel: New Alternatives to Old Solutions

In today’s interview episode, we’re joined by Kyle Hetzel, the Assistant Curator of the Children’s Zoo at an AZA accredited zoo on the west coast. He has been an animal trainer for 12 years, working with a wide range of species from birds of prey to walrus, giraffes, goats, and everything in between. He has utilized the Constructional Approach training animals for the past 9 years, specializing in assent with disabled animals.  
In this episode, you’re going to hear Emily and Kyle talk about:
  • Just because you can doesn’t mean you should
  • How training saved $24,000 and got management buy-in
  • A giraffe that loves to be right and giraffe hugs

Links Mentioned in This Episode:

Kyle on Instagram

Constructional approach: The constructional approach recommends identifying a target behavior and looking for behavior that is currently available for a starting point, as opposed to looking for what is absent (Goldiamond, 2002).

For a more in-depth discussion, go here: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/7251882/

Conjugate Schedule of Reinforcement + Continuous Rate + Higher Magnitude: To explain these, let’s start with defining a Continuous Rate of Reinforcement (RoR), since that’s the basis for the rest of it. A Continuous RoR is one where the target behavior is reinforced every time it is offered. A higher magnitude is when the intensity of a behavior increases. A Conjugate Schedule of Reinforcement is a type of Continuous RoR where the magnitude of the behavior directly impacts the qualities of the reinforcer.

So for example, if we were teaching an animal to push an object with their chest, when they push the object harder we could increase the duration, value, or intensity of the reinforcer. And when they push the object with less force, we would decrease the duration, value, or intensity of the reinforcer proportionately.

Linear training v. Nonlinear training: Linear training is when we train in a fixed, sequential series of steps performed in a rigid manner towards an end behavior. It’s called linear because it is singly focused on pathologically attacking a problem/ behavior.

Nonlinear training is not singly focused but instead looks at building skills that can be rearranged or built to accomplish a desired outcome.

For a more in-depth discussion, go here: https://behavioranalysishistory.pbworks.com/f/The%20Constructional%20Approach.pdf

Contrafreeloading: Contrafreeloading is a phenomenon wherein learners, when given a choice between freely available food and food they have to work for, will choose to work for their food (Jensen 1963). It should be noted that this phenomenon is only observed in contexts wherein the learners are physically, behaviorally, and emotionally healthy, have not been deprived of food beyond their natural hunger cycles, and have already acquired the skills necessary to do the work required to gain access to the food.

Assent: The words “assent” and “consent” mean different things – both individually and in relation to each other – depending on the context. But in the context used in this podcast episode, we’re using “assent” in the way that the medical community uses it when referring to practicing medicine on children under 18 years of age. In this context, “assent” means agreeing to take part in something. This is in contrast to “consent”, which in this context means agreeing to have something done with full awareness of the risks, benefits, and delayed consequences. Since children and non-humans cannot ever have fully informed consent (because, for example, you can’t explain to an animal the risks of a procedure they may assent to), in this context, assent is the more appropriate term to describe the way in which animals choose to engage in the training practices described.

That said, in other contexts, “assent” means to agree that something should be done, whereas “consent” means agreeing to let something be done to you. In that context, consent is a more accurate description of the role animals play in the interactions we have with them.

So either assent or consent can be an appropriate word choice when having these discussions, depending on the context in which you’re using them!

Meet the Guest

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Kyle Hetzel

Kyle Hetzel is the Assistant Curator of the Children’s Zoo at an AZA accredited zoo on the west coast. He has been an animal trainer for 12 years, working with a wide range of species from birds of prey to walrus, giraffe, goats and everything in between. Throughout his career, one of his passions has been finding ways to uniquely connect guests with the animals in his care. It is his belief that the animals under his care serve as ambassadors for their wild counter parts. Kyle loves to highlight the intelligence and personalities of those ambassadors all in hopes of inspiring the public to want to care more. He has utilized the Constructional Approach training animals for the past 9 years, specializing in assent with disabled animals.  At his current facility, he leads training teams that are designing training programs with assent focused behaviors. Being a part of training teams where various backgrounds come together to help grow and learn is one of the parts of the job that brings him the most joy.  

Meet the Hosts

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Allie Bender, CDBC, CPDT-KA, SBA

Allie Bender is a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant, Certified Professional Dog Trainer- Knowledge Assessed, and a Shelter Behavior Affiliate. She has been in the animal welfare industry since 2006 and professionally training since 2012. She is the founder and co-owner of Pet Harmony, co-author of Canine Enrichment for the Real World, and a national speaker.

While in the animal sheltering industry, Allie realized that her passion lied in helping pets with maladaptive behaviors. Specifically, she wanted to help prevent animals with rehabilitatable problems from being euthanized. She loves working with dogs and cats displaying stranger danger, resource guarding, and leash reactivity. Her favorite thing about working with pets and their people is seeing relationships grow and seeing harmonious households develop.

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Emily Strong, CDBC, SBA

Emily Strong is a Certified Dog Behavior Consultant and Shelter Behavior Affiliate. She has been in the animal welfare industry since 1990 and has been a behavior consultant since 2008. She is the co-owner of Pet Harmony, co-author of Canine Enrichment for the Real World, and a national speaker. 

Emily started working with animals at a young age and struggled with the notion that you have to hurt, scare, or intimidate animals to help them. When she discovered the behavior sciences and learned that it wasn’t necessary to do so– that we can care for emotional, mental, and physical health simultaneously– she plunged headfirst into animal behavior. Emily loves helping current and prospective behavior professionals and working with pet parents through our in-depth services. She enjoys working with all species.

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